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Poll #1430279 Minicon Fan GoH?

Do you think that Minicon should always have a Fan Guest of Honor?

Yes, and I feel very strongly about it.
6(18.2%)
Yes, though I don't feel strongly about it.
18(54.5%)
No
9(27.3%)

Comments

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quadong
Jul. 15th, 2009 07:51 pm (UTC)
I answered no, but your options didn't leave as much room for types of no`s as it did for types of yeses. I think it would be fine to say that Minicon should usually have a fan GoH, but I don't think it's essential every year.
alirose
Jul. 15th, 2009 07:53 pm (UTC)
I agree and answered "Yes, though I don't feel strongly about it."
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quadong
Jul. 15th, 2009 07:55 pm (UTC)
I also, by the way, don't think that Minicon always needs an artist GoH. I've mentioned this to Keith as well.
laurel
Jul. 16th, 2009 04:15 am (UTC)
The GoH plan that was decided on by the Minicon 34 group way back when, after a ton of discussion by a ton of people, was to shoot for:

1 writer GoH
1 fan GoH
1 other GoH with it being an artist at least every other year.


'Course I don't think one should name a fan GoH if there isn't a deserving one, but so far there doesn't seem to be a shortage. I can also see doing fewer GoH if finances are tight or one is spending more on one particular GoH.
barondave
Jul. 15th, 2009 08:24 pm (UTC)
For the Big Minicons, I would have said one of the "maybe" responses. If our whole excuse to downsize was because we're the Keepers of the Flame, then we need a FGoH.

That's not to say that a guest has to formally be a Fan GoH, but that aspect of their experience should be honored/added to Programmingl.
kaustin
Jul. 16th, 2009 12:51 pm (UTC)
WARNING: I might be totally talking through my hat here
Though I'm not an authority on the changes that occured around Minicon 34 et al. it didn't seem to me to be about downsizing or being Keepers of the Flame as much as MnStf admitting that, no matter how hard they tried, they were rather incompetent at managing complicated projects. So their choices were either to let someone else manage the very complicated thing that Minicon had become or to make it less complicated. Because letting someone else manage it meant it wouldn't really be MnStf's convention anymore, and they didn't want that, they chose the other option instead.
mle292
Jul. 15th, 2009 08:42 pm (UTC)
I haven't answered because I didn't think that any of the choices accurately represent my opinion.

I think that it's fine and I do not object to a Fan GOH, but I don't think it's vital that the convention has one each year.
kaustin
Jul. 15th, 2009 09:02 pm (UTC)
I think that matches pretty well with the "No" response.
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magentamn
Jul. 15th, 2009 09:54 pm (UTC)
Actually, I didn't see the word "fan", just GoH, and I voted "yes, though I don't feel strongly". With Minicon the size it is, the expense of GoHs may not be worth it. We might want to consider something like, "honored guests" who get a free badge and maybe other perks, but not plane fare, a room for several nights etc that a GoH expects.

Just my $.02
quadong
Jul. 16th, 2009 03:23 pm (UTC)
Even much smaller conventions have GoHs. I think that it would look very strange if Minicon didn't have any. Minicon is many things, but an opportunity to meet popular professionals in the field is certainly one of them.

Conventions do vary in how many perks they give GoHs. Minicon is, as I understand it, fairly lavish on this score. We, for instance, have recently been giving them a meal stipend on top of their transportation and room. The thing is, though, after plane fare, this doesn't really increase the total expense much, but it does make the GoHs happy, which is a Good Thing. So in the end, I don't think there is a whole lot of wiggle room in how much GoHs cost.
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dreamshark
Jul. 15th, 2009 11:22 pm (UTC)
I don't see a need to ever have a Fan GoH. We're all fans, aren't we? So why do we need to make a big deal about bringing in one more? I've never been comfortable with the concept of Big Name Fans.
kaustin
Jul. 16th, 2009 12:38 pm (UTC)
I guess my point of view is that if someone goes out of their way to do something nice for you it's polite to say "Thank you." If someone does something nice for hundreds, or thousands, of people it could get very time consuming for each and every one of them to personally express their thanks so we've devised a way to say thanks on a larger scale. That's really all that naming someone Fan GoH is to me. It's just a lot of people saying "Thank you for what you've done for fandom." I don't think of it as elevating, or crowning, or anointing the person. If you have an armful of packages and someone opens a door for you and you say "Thanks!" you're not saying "You're much better than the person over there who didn't hold the door for me. They're such a loser!" As for someone being a BNF I guess I don't have a problem with people who are well known throughout fandom because of their accomplishments. I don't believe however that just because everybody knows who someone is, or because they've been named a Fan GoH, or because they have a popular 'zine, that people should somehow place them on a pedestal or defer to their lofty pronouncements.

Edited at 2009-07-16 02:54 pm (UTC)
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galacticvoyeur
Jul. 16th, 2009 12:57 am (UTC)
DavE's comment If our whole excuse to downsize was because we're the Keepers of the Flame, then we need a FGoH is spot on. However, when I overheard someone mention that the new Minicon was aiming at being more like 4th Street, well, then, I guess the party really is... over.
kaustin
Jul. 16th, 2009 03:57 am (UTC)
If I were to have people mention to their friends when you were near that the new new Minicon was aiming at being more like a bologna sandwich would you declare the party back on again? How about if it was aiming to be more like a pair of flannel boxers? Am I getting warmer? Colder? Smellier?

Maybe I should take a bath.

Edited at 2009-07-16 05:13 pm (UTC)
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lisathedreamer
Jul. 17th, 2009 08:02 pm (UTC)
I answered yes, but I don't feel strongly about it because I thought while it would be really cool to have one because it gives another person the opportunity to be recognized, it's not absolutely necessary. This sounds very similar to the first response given by quadong, but you could say that my response is slightly more towards the yes end of the spectrum than his. :)
(Anonymous)
Jul. 27th, 2009 07:30 pm (UTC)
Anyone Interested in Old Minicon Masquerade Videos???
Not sure how to reach all you Minicon people, so I am trying here. Jon Hyers - I'm the maker of the 1988- some of the years through 1995, Minicon Masquerade videos. Please note that I AM NOT the guy whose company, two years in a row took people's money and never delivered the VHS tapes [roughly 1993 and 1994]. I recorded and have on file, most of the years from 1988-1992, and I believe 1995 also. I wanted to know if anyone was interested in getting a copy, or buying the masters from me before they get recycled and gone for good. It's 2009, so I've had them for a while now. If there is interest, OR a better way to post this message to ALL of Minicon people, please email me at
jon.hyers@comcast.net

WHERE HAVE I GONE:
In case anyone remembers me, I was good friends with Steve McKillen, the usual MC of those shows. I stopped recording the Masquerade in about 1996 because in 1997 I began a special effects business, that has now grown to an international effects consulting firm, most recently doing work for a History Museum in Russia. I invented a projection process called Virtual 3D, which has been used in some films, and across the US in theme parks, haunts and small museums in this country. My work continues now in HD, and special effects.
quadong
Jul. 28th, 2009 01:16 am (UTC)
Re: Anyone Interested in Old Minicon Masquerade Videos???
I'm currently one of the Minnstf archivists. Yes, we are interested, at the very least in anything that you would be willing to send us without charge, or for just the cost of postage. You make mention of "buying the masters", so I am not sure what your thoughts on this are. If there is a significant price, I'll have to check on what we already have kicking around.

I'll also send you this by e-mail.

-Matt Strait
mle292
Apr. 9th, 2015 11:30 pm (UTC)
I saw this again, and I think I have enough information now to answer.

I don't think a fan guest is necessary every year. A fan guest every two or three years would be my preference, but I'd still attend Minicon with or without it.
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